Addressing Work from Home Burnout and Mental Health Challenges

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hi everyone good afternoon welcome to pink mic legal confessions i'm stephanie garces donat owner of garces law firm where we help prepare for the unexpected um just so that you are aware today we're talking about something that's not law related so that's kind of nice taking a break for some of the stuff i always educate you guys on but today's episode is specifically for addressing work um work from home environments specifically work from home burnouts and mental health challenges i think this is something that is uh not talked about enough so i wanted to address it today on our show so as you all know over the past two years there's been a pandemic happening of course that has really turned the lives of working professionals upside down and i think for most of us uh really learning how to navigate and how to um figure it out professionally but also at our home life is always really interesting because everyone has their own ways of of thinking through this and sometimes it feels like it's over but it's very much still going on for for some people now i know at some point um parents had to learn how to homeschool your kids and actually do working um remotely on top of that or even having the children network um say work from home with you because they're in school so the long and the short of it is that there's long drawn out hours that have taken place back-to-back zoom calls which meetings and conferences and i think a lot of this is still going on but really uh the inability to take an actual vacation i think it really has begun to take its toll and um while things are opening up and yeah people are traveling uh today's mental health issues and burnouts are at an all-time high and the world has been forever changed with a pandemic right we're never really gonna see the world the same way and so uh the reason for that is because a lot of us haven't lived through this if you ask your grandparents or something they may say oh yeah we live through the pandemic but for most of us this is our first time so uh there is a lot that has changed and in this week's peak michael confessions we're discussing the future of self-care work-life balance if there is one right and mental health management um so really we just want to make sure you're tuning in today to understand what this is about so as i mentioned i'm very passionate about today's topic because as a business owner a dog parent and a spouse the demands of life are always pulling us in different direct directions and quite frankly i think most of you can agree with me that the demands in life have really always amplified during this pandemic because it's hard not to things are really different than they used to be and now we're finally in a place where employers the health care professionals are taking note of what are the actual lasting impacts that have come about since this pandemic especially for mental health concerns and really just your own well-being you know they always say if you can't take care of yourself you can't take care of others right i'm sure you've heard that so today's focus as i said is work from home burnout and mental health challenges now just so that we're kind of um giving a bigger picture of this there are two key areas we're going to be covering today and working from home burnout is one area everyone knows what that's like i mean as much as we all want to work from home for those of us that are like glued to our screen zoom calls back to back it could be a burnout it there is such a thing and and whether you want to admit it or not it's not super easy to go to get through this and it's always good to talk about these things because i think now we're at a point where some of us are doing hybrid some of us are working from home some days and others um are going into the office other people and employers have chosen the option to go fully in person and that's so much remote and you know mental health issues is the other topic we're going to be covering and and related to a change in lifestyle so you know a lot of times if you see if you have a twitter account or you're you're into hashtags you'll see a hashtag wfh and you'll see mental health so for those of you that know what i'm talking about and are familiar with these hashtags these are like newer hashtags that have arrived in the scene so if you'd like to share them during this episode feel free but i do think that not enough of us talk about mental health issues and really just what working from home burnout looks like and and really maybe just the demands that you've you felt since the pandemic so let's start with the numbers right a lot of this stuff is based in studies there's been a lot of studies around uh mental health and us as a country what have we been doing with our workforce what are the struggles that people are facing now than they didn't have before you know that sort of thing so when we talk about these things um we really want to focus on really just how do you adapt how do you continue um at a pace that's required to work from home where you have all these other things going on so this is a million dollar question i think a lot of these studies are looking to um focus on but as i mentioned with burnout so did you know just a fun fact for all of you watching is that nine out of ten employees are concerned about their burnout levels now this is really interesting to me because when you think about uh the way that employees are you know tasked at work and we're expected to do everything and always be healthy i think a lot of times the discussion of burning out and really just trying to understand how burned out you feel and what to do is really important so there's different pathways at work um and really pathways in a workplace when it comes to reporting someone's mental health and nine out of 10 employees being concerned is the study i mean that's 90 so that is a lot of the majority i would say and you know for those of you that are watching feel free to chime in on what you see in your workplace and things you have done to cope with it because it's really an open forum for people to think about the studies that are out there so to me it's really interesting because i think a lot of people underestimate the power of social media the power of using these platforms so that we can engage in discussion i mean it's nice to think that we're all you know we're all human and and all of that but most of us have challenges that we face and maybe we're not open about it so if you're if you feel like you're alone you're not there's obviously a majority of the people that do feel there's burn out at the workplace um so that's really interesting and um another thing too is over half i think it was half what was what the survey said half of survey respondents experienced burnout in 2021 and by the way this is up 21 from pre-covet surveys so that is a pretty big amount for it to be going up because keep in mind that employee burnout has always existed but i think things have been amplified much more than normal because we have these unprecedented times what they call it right the pandemic you know we've never really gone through that so and and i don't know maybe i speak for myself on this but i think sometimes because we've been remote it's almost forces you to do more because you feel that you can be more productive i know i've heard people say oh i don't have to travel to work to and from so that saves me two hours but correct me if i'm wrong but i think that some of the employers demand mon more from the employees and they want more and so sometimes those two hours that you would have to travel are now being used to work so like i said you do see an impact in the numbers you see a lot more people that are having these these outcomes of higher burnout rates um another thing that we want to discuss is part of this is also just depression that's one of the mental health struggles that a lot of americans face and 29 percent of employees describe themselves as depressed during the covet pandemic so that is a pretty big number if you think about um you covet and all of the sad stuff that was going on with it and still is i would say 29 of your employees or employees are feeling the stress they're feeling depressed and these are just people that identified it by the way i mean we keep this in mind when we talk about this but these surveys are are basically um based off like you know reputable places i think garter hr study was what the one that i'm referencing but but they talk about it in the in the in the sense of that that's what's been reported keep in mind that there's a lot of people that go undiagnosed right but for purposes of statistics that's what you're seeing there today i've also seen another study that talks about i want to say i think it was over 70 percent of employees reported some some concern and really concerns with their depression levels mental health um levels in quarter four i think it was in 2020 so really there's different things to discuss here i mean mental health and burnout all of this goes on the same spots even though we're talking about it um individually people are facing these types of things so it's always good to uh know that there are resources out there and i know during this this live you're going to see a couple of the links in my chat here that talk about some of the stuff that's available if you are struggling or know someone that's struggling even sharing the video really helps i mean people want to know where do i turn and some of this is private not all of us want to boast about our mental health and and what's wrong with it or what we what we think is right with it right because sometimes people don't even don't even want to admit it so it's good if you know if you feel like you know someone or you've experienced this yourself that is struggling with mental health feel free to read reuse the sources that we send and also share that share the video the other thing that i wanted to discuss is as far as numbers is engagement so the percentage of actively disengaged employee will be up 15 i think it was in in 2021 so it's kind of interesting because disengagement is a funny word to me because it basically it's like it's like for every employee and they say this is an employer for every employee that is working from home you know there is someone out there that might think you're just engaging me you're not actually you know actively participating in some of the the meetings or perhaps not even talking i mean it's kind of interesting i know some of you have probably done this but when you're in a zoom call there's always someone that has another video on or maybe there's someone that is you know not talking much and maybe they're dazing off so there's a little bit of different etiquette when it comes to the zoom calls but the percentage of actively and disengaged is actually up by 15 so that's very interesting to me um another thing that should be discussed and really considered when we're talking about this topic is substance abuse so just as a statistic 36 percent of workers say an addiction or substance abuse issue has affected them more since the pandemic so this is pretty self-explanatory i think that people that struggle with substance abuse obviously when you're at home and you know most of us were working from everybody was stuck inside and for some of us we still are we started working from home substance abuse is still on the rise and especially during the pandemic so to me it's interesting that that workers are actually reporting um having more struggles and actually feeling that it's affected them more because of the pandemic so these are really important topics to discuss and again resources are available um and they'll be in in the chat as we're as we're sitting here so the other thing about substance abuse another study that i came across that was very interesting and i thought i should share it is that one in four employees is concerned about substance abuse levels so many people that suffer from substance abuse will you know have their own struggles some of people don't really want to recognize it but i think the fact that one in four is actually concerned shows you that at least a quarter of people are concerned they're thinking okay with everything going on maybe there's more reason to to engage in something like that or perhaps they just need the resources they need to get better and they don't know where so again um always looking to help we obviously can continue to the right place but i am not a counselor i am out to be one but i definitely know there are resources available if you are interested feel free to to message us but but keep in mind too that when we were talking about these statistics they're just to provoke thought so a lot of these studies that exist i mean there's there's countless of them really shows you the times that we're in you know it shows you that people are concerned that their studies being done because they want to make sure that people are aware that you are not alone in this we are not alone all of us have felt one way or another that pandemic has really changed our world in many ways and lastly the other thing i wanted to discuss is access to mental health programs and benefits so 53 percent of employees and excuse me employers added mental health to their programs and and really just to address specifically covid19 concerns in 2021. so this just shows you the transformation of some of the employers that are recognizing that there is a need to have access to mental health resources to actually let the employees know hey if you are struggling here's where to go because i think maybe generations before us didn't actually go through a pandemic maybe they weren't as mental health wasn't as accessible or as popular it is now so 53 of employers offering this um as an addition to their to their health programs is interesting because this specifically says it was added that means it wasn't there before so over half have now included it and and quite frankly it's it's a must and it's it's just wonderful to see that the employers are acknowledging this so if you're watching and you're wondering about your employer offers it it's very likely they do so just something to keep in mind because clearly people have added it to their programs if they didn't have it before um the other thing that i wanted to discuss regarding access to mental health resources is that 72 percent of employees want employers to champion mental health and well-being but 63 percent think their workplace is unhelpful so you know this hits home for me because i feel that i am an employer myself so i always like to you know i wonder maybe in in value what the employee says so to me um 72 percent of employees want want mental health to be champion meaning they do want mental health to be taken seriously the resources to be there for it to be a prime focus of some of the stuff being offered as benefits so it's very interesting because if you think about it you know this is a more than a majority of people and and again it's not talked about enough and i think very commonly now i know that people have will ask during interviews what kind of benefits are offered you know and maybe that's something that employees we have to now you know ask when we're when you're interviewing you know what kind of mental health resources are available if i work for you you know so it seems to me that there's going to be a trend in that direction and that's not necessarily a bad thing it's just because i think the times and with everything going on with the the pressure that everyone is under to perform well at work to get through this pandemic to take care of their families it's all gonna come to light in some of the ways that things are trending so it's very interesting to look at some of the studies because to me you know it's it's the writing on the wall you know these studies speak for themselves but again you know it's just good to share this because not everyone understands how serious mental health and and burning out through working at home is really seriously um so what exactly is work and actually specifically home burnout working from home burnout what is that so for those of you that are just watching now we are talking about what is um really the impact of working from home what kind of burnout can people face and what are some of the emotional mental health issues that arise um not only from from burning out in the workplace but more so during the pandemic you know this is still going on so people are working from home or there's a hybrid so we're talking about that so if we talk about burnout in general i think everyone has an idea of what burnout is but for those of you that are thinking um about how it could work in the workplace is burnout is really identified as the lack of motivation uh for prolonged periods of work so uh this also limits and limits you i should say has and you have an inability to travel for vacation for example um and you have a hard time stepping away uh that's just kind of the a very you know um nice summary of the word burnout but really it's it's it's all all those things so having burnout i think is pretty clear once you you feel it i mean i think that the best thing like not being able to step away is um something that i think a lot of us have struggled with especially if you have high demand at work but that is one of the characteristics of burnout so something to keep in mind in zoom fatigue that's the other thing i want to talk about that's another thing that is causing a lot of burnout with work but specifically zoom fatigue is now a thing that people talk about and it's very common because for most of us zoom is still going to be part of our lives for many years to come but um many many meetings are conducted at zoom anything from you know just your you know recreational um hobbies that are outside of work a lot i know i'm with uh different organizations where everything is still via zoom and then we have um as far as like work and in person um versus uh virtual appointments um zoom is still part of part of that and even internally i know sometimes what staff will zoom um so zoom fatigue is very very um it's interesting and it's also very relevant um first just so you know it's it's unhealthy to be on video for that many hours in a day um i think right now people are averaging eight to 14 hours on zoom for those of you that are back-to-back zoom calls that's not hard to accomplish as many hours in a day not to mention the pressure to control from your your work from home environment you know keeping the kids settled um keeping them occupied maintaining a home office but also trying to be productive so all of that really comes to light when they talk about zoom fatigue because zoom fatigue i think is for most of us that we felt it it's terrible it's like you don't have any room in the day and even though you're at home there's still a struggle to get through it there's still a struggle to get through all those calls because you're you're tired and staring at a screen for that many hours just can't be easy so that is basically how you know working from home creates burnout especially uh virtual meetings too and when we talk about um burnout there's also this mental and emotional um you know issues that people are having and um even illnesses so one of the things that come up so comes up a lot when you look at some of these studies it talks about isolation and loneliness so when we work remotely we don't get the face-to-face interaction we don't get to see expression all the time and like i mentioned some people even turn their cameras off which you know you are but you turn your camera off because you're hoping that you don't have to be you know looking at anyone or the person or whoever but the point i'm trying to make is that the face-to-face interaction is eliminated you know we're so used to that but now it's totally normal to be you know on a virtual call as and even right now as i'm sitting here on the facebook live i'm staring at my uh my computer and hoping that you can all still hear me but the point is is that there's isolation and loneliness associated with with working remote remote so um it's very interesting to think about and i think that does lead to um some mental health issues if you are completely isolated all the time um for those of you that are introverts you might say i always want to be alone but but humans always need and and crave social interaction at some point so it could really be lonely um as i mentioned substance abuse has been a really popular topic that's come up during the pandemic because for prolonged periods of isolation um and if you're home all the time and you're you know close to some of the things that are destructive that does lead to destructive behavior so substance abuse for example alcohol consum consumption has alone rose 60 during the pandemic i mean good for the people that you know make alcohol but it's just it just goes to show where we're at in a society people are drinking more and i'm not saying that you can't drink in moderation i'm just saying the numbers speak for themselves so alcohol consumption is up 60 during the pandemic and not to mention too i think um substance abuse and all of that also should be taken seriously when we talk about these things because that is how it happens when you have isolation loneliness and then you're off doing destructive things so that's really really one of the things that comes up a lot in some of these studies when we talk about burnout being distracted or really not motivated this could be an issue down the road so when we talk about employer resources the employers have begun offering more mental health benefits than before you heard me say it earlier that there is an increase in the amount of benefits of mental health that is being offered um then way before they're even added to the programs those of you that are wondering where do i look where do i make sure that i can actually have access to this if i need it or if someone i know needs it you can always ask employers must must support employees and protect their jobs when they or their loved ones are going through a difficult family situation so there is a law that protects anyone dealing with personal issues especially when it comes to family issues where you may seek help so definitely ask the hr department if there if there is one if you're in a smaller business ask the ask the owner the owner would know if there's um you know benefits that are offered as far as mental health and sometimes they even put you in touch with the um the broker that does the insurance themselves if they use a third party so a lot of times that's how you can handle that free and inexpensive resources exist for example it's always you know a step in the right direction if you can at least consider this if someone needs help or if you need help to give them a call um but when it comes to mind and the mental health charity most of us has heard of them have heard of the mine but as the uk's leading mental health charity uh this charity specifically they offer a plethora of resources and really for those seeking more information or supporter guidance with their mental health and there's different types of resources for example they have youtube videos and workplace guides for um for anyone looking for that it has some fascinating research and advice about where to get help and treatment options and advocacy services so if you're interested in that that is free so it's free to access and you can visit them at their website it's called mind the mental health charity so just i think it's also known as mental health at work for employers so again this is free resources and i'm just going through them for those of you that may be interested in learning more about some of the stuff that i'm talking about and really where we get grabbed our information from but um there is something else that's um free and inexpensive it's called living life to the full it's a free library for online resources and courses to teach life skills um really aimed at improving your well-being and resilience throughout your life um i mean this is amazing because to think that that's available just it's a library is phenomenal to people that really need it or maybe maybe they don't know where to turn but this is free and there shouldn't be any issue about you know where to find them because you can always message us if you need the the website but but this is actually interesting because whether you have a living a current like long-term condition that you're experiencing um or you have anxiety like low mood you know and high stress situations it's kind of nice i mean even they even talk about like if you're a new parent and you really don't know how to handle that living life to the full has been created actually by experts in the cognitive behavioral therapy space so it's kind of interesting when you think about some of the the brainiacs that are behind these operations because they're free and they're really meant to help your well-being or again if you know someone that might benefit from it it's great to to to offer that um the nhs is also another resource i wanted to point out that's created several free to listen to audio guides on mental well-being so this is really designated to help um somebody's mood who's listening in on it they're short guides that are created by doctors and really everything from like how to cope um coping mechanisms i think is really underrated and how to find out how to cope with something um and when i say something it could be any life event anything that you're struggling with from low moods to depression anxiety et cetera really to just train you and give you the confidence building that you need to be able to tackle some of these some of these and that is um free that's called nhs audio guides and it is free to anyone that's that's interested there's also a headspace this is another resource that i know is um i think there's a free uh seven day trial and then there's a monthly subscription that's that's less than you know i think five euros i think it's because i think it might be um you know overseas but but the point i'm trying to make is that um headspace is actually an online portal and it's also a mobile app that provides meditation for those of you that meditate i know it's really popular among some of my friends that meditate but also mindfulness techniques for any scenario mindfulness i think has to be practiced by the way um so if you're not sure what that is feel free to check them out because it's quite interesting um how your day can get better if you practice mindfulness but that's a conversation for another day um so whether you're really trying to have um you know peaceful sleep or trying to doze off into like a relaxed state and be more present it's a great way to um to learn more because headspace actually has like techniques for day-to-day stressing worrying um and it even offers like a comprehensive library for guided meditations animations i think mindfulness workouts i think what's what they call them and some articles and videos that are really really um great so if you're looking for something like that do it um and for those of you that have an apple watch the next thing i'm going to talk about and you may very well be familiar i know i've used this so many times there's something called brief sessions um or they call it like practicing mindfulness too they actually have two but um apple watches have uh this app or the it's built in this breathe app that basically encourages um the user to basically set aside a couple of minutes out of the day to think about something that really takes them their mind somewhere else that's positive so it really is a way of practicing mindfulness and practicing breathing but the breathing act comes standard with any wearable device anyway but it sounds really simple right i mean i've done it myself but the cool thing about this is that mindfulness breathing really has been shown to be effective at reducing anxiety helping with burnout uh providing types of of uh relief for pain and really decreasing negative pessimistic thinking and i think all of us could really benefit from doing something like this because i know for me even anyone else that's in in the um in the you know you're working nine to five or longer you know what it's like to feel stressed and to feel the demand of the work day so using this breed app can be really great because it actually forces you to essentially breathe and it makes you think about something i know sometimes if you look at the watch it'll say make sure that you think about the last time that someone made you feel good or you know something like that so it makes you think about something and it's really great for the mind so that's it's free if you do have an apple watch or if you don't have one there's more reason to get one so you're welcome the other thing i want to talk about is there is the um meditation you know good old 10-minute meditations that you can put into your day so i know that we all have busy busy days we don't even feel like we have time for ourselves but often finding the time to take some moments aside and really feel that what we're doing is for us and to feel that there is um you know time to set aside and and to take care of yourselves is a great way to practice meditation so i know it seems impossible for some of us that are super busy and don't even have time to breathe but calm is an app that actually leads you to do this and it's it's a sleep and guided meditation that um is actually developed to be free to access i think through youtube and i think it's even called 10-minute meditations but um so you do get it for free on youtube just so you know but there is a daily calm series it's in um basically an accessible entry point to meditation so the short dedication of the time needed demonstrates why they have really um acquired so many viewers and i think it's a half million views since april of 2020 so daily calm is free and as i mentioned a lot of people have subscribed to it so feel free to look at that if you're looking for a place to meditate and really just looking for more guidance to exercise some of the stuff we discussed today so as i mentioned for some of you that are just joining us my name is attorney stephanie garces i'm the owner of garces law firm in palatine illinois and we help parents and individuals prepare for the unexpected we prepare legacy plans we do real estate closings we also secure people's financial futures and build wealth through real estate so whether you're an investor or a first time home buyer you're acquiring more we're here to help you any step of the way now as i was discussing our topic for today is work from home burnout and mental health challenges so thank you so much for really tuning in today because i think today we really tackled something that a lot of us are afraid to talk about and we don't want to be judged when we talk about it so i made a pink mic for you so you can share with your family if they're ever wondering what is it that's out there and why do we care about mental health and what does burnout look like right so uh thank you so much for for joining us we join you here at one o'clock on tuesday central time to share tips and to use our platform to provide legal guidance any way we can to parents guardians and home buyers and sellers so as always our viewers have questions and actually some of the questions i've received before wrapping up today i want to tackle so uh one of the questions that came in while i was doing my live is what are some of the ways i can help myself cope with working from home specifically um really with burnout so uh the best way i always say is really just organize yourself put together a routine i think routines are really really underrated when it comes to our daily lives um a lot of people that um are successful you'll see um and they say successful and that's so professionally but also in their in their home life they're happier if they can put it together a routine where they put aside time for yourself so whether that's meditating whether that's working out whether that's i'm going to you know read um you know positive affirmations and drink my coffee for 10 minutes i always say and i've always said it it's one percent better than yesterday it's all you're expected to do to do better a lot of times we're hard on ourselves about this so just keep in mind all you have to do is one percent better than the day before and they think you're on a good track right so put together a routine that is a great way to do this you also want to get outside if you don't get outside during the day that could really like mess up your feng shui think mentally we all need mental breaks let's be honest um all of us can go go go but eventually your mind tends to you know you get writer's block or you have like a jam mentally and getting outside and walking around with your dog your kids or just going to nature preserve is a great way to like just relax and and do something a little bit more relaxing and that is demanding um take intentional breaks i know um taking breaks i think is really hard for some people because some of you are probably watching and saying well i don't have time for a break because i have a newborn or i don't have time for a break because i have to be on calls all the time but even just you know going outside and and taking a walk i know for me there's a there's a mailbox that we go to that to go drop off mail it's you know it's just a walk across the street but that's an intentional break you know thinking about when can i get up stretch my legs walk go to the water cooler come back you know little things like that and and making sure you know you maybe you don't look at your phone for 10 minutes you know that's an intentional break um try not to eat at your desk too eating at your desk is super popular i think most of us do it but if there's a way to avoid it you know go to starbucks and grab a sandwich or something and maybe that will be your lunch as opposed to eating at your desk that does avoid um you know working from home burnout and actually work burnout as a whole but specifically at home eating and working and all the same space can really create higher stress and it's okay to turn off your computer and leave work okay so that's one of the things that i learned over the years is that i can work myself till all hours of the night but if i turn my computer off and leave work and i've accepted that there's more work to be done tomorrow that's the best thing you can do to try to you know create some sort of boundary for yourself because i think it's really easy to blend the lines between not having boundaries professionally and also you know having a boundary with your family so you don't want to you don't want to put yourself in a position where you can't you know turn off the computer and leave work for the day leave work i say because you're working from home but you know what i mean um another question that we got that was a really interesting question because i never even thought about it was can i be fired for taking time off to seek help for a mental health condition um no you know the answer is no to that i mean most times people that are struggling with mental health issues and you as long as you um you know you can take the time off or sometimes you even have to tell your employer that you're having some problems there is no reason or justification for just letting someone go over that um it's still considered a in health issues so i would say no to that one um is it normal to want to change jobs or to feel unhappy in my role if i'm burned out i i think so i mean i think it's very normal to feel that way as i mentioned before when you talk about burning out and mental health i mean everything is correlated so if you're not okay here in your mind you may not be okay in your workplace and what you're actually you know the happiness that you're feeling with the work that you're doing so i think it is normal and i think that um speaking up about it is okay and talking openly about some of your options you have to try to seek help to before you just you don't want to change your job all of a sudden is is a good thing to do so i think it is normal i don't think it's talked about enough another question i got is if i speak to hr about programs available as a benefit is the conversation confidential absolutely the hr department really has no right to just be dispersing your information because when you're an employee you're just inquiring you're inquiring on the program i don't think there's any harm in doing that typically the hr department is trained and they have a duty right to everybody to not go in an air your dirty laundry or ask you know ask people about what they thought about what you're doing i mean that doesn't happen i mean i hope that your hr department um isn't doing that but uh typically no they are not going to be um spreading it because it is confident confidential information um and last but not least for us we always are offering still virtual and in-person appointments so whatever you're comfortable with we're comfortable with we do have hand sanitizer and masks uh we do offer spanish speaking of consultations um and also english consultation for those of you wondering but uh you can always contact me by calling or texting our number we get plenty of text for those of you that are super busy and can't get on the phone and you can always visit me and my website if you're ever looking for some help or have any questions about anything we discussed during any of our pink mic you can always reach out so i want to thank you all for joining me as always it's always a pleasure seeing the same viewers and some of you that are constantly supporting us so your questions are excellent i really really do appreciate them and i invite you here to join me next week at one o'clock for pink mic legal confessions we'll tackle another topic and you'll get to hear a little bit more about what we have to say on either a legal topic or a non-legal topic which seems to be more popular so feel free to share this with your parents with guardians with anyone that you know they may want to know a little bit more about resources available for those of you struggling with mental health issues or burnout from work especially working from home so i hope you all stay well and have a great day thank you so much and we'll see you soon